Posts Tagged ‘immoral’

Another Thoughtcrime Victory! Manga Porn = 15 years

Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009

Just when you thought it was safe to possess a pen and paper, we hear about the disturbing case of Manga1 collector Christopher Handley’s prosecution and guilty plea (disappointing the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund) for violating the 2003 Protect Act, which outlaws cartoons, drawings, sculptures or paintings depicting minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct, and which lack “serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.” The maximum sentence is 15 years. It’s likely that Handley pled that down significantly.2 What did he possess to get him in so much trouble? Depictions of cartoon children being sexually abused.3

Some call him sick for collecting such things. Some feel he should be locked up. They feel that sick things should be prohibited. What is this really a case about? Sexuality? Pedophilia? Puritanism? Regardless, there has been an uproar in the comic book community, and the point I made last December is being reiterated.4 My “underage” stick-figure sex depiction (daring someone to prosecute me) has been, in a variety of ways, repeated.5

Where’s the victim? The ink? The paper? Are the prosecutors the type of people who believe that fictional characters have feelings or rights? And why isn’t everyone who has a copy of Nabokov’s Lolita (in book or movie form, or, heck, is there a graphic novel?) currently being prosecuted? Heck, why isn’t the government clamping down on Amazon and Barnes & Noble for selling both artistic and literary depictions of underage sex, rape, and torture? If you think it doesn’t exist, if you think it’s not purchasable by the general public, perhaps you’re the myopic kind of person who would cheer to see Handley thrown in jail while you simultaneously forgive the Catholic Church for harboring men who actually stuck their penises in the mouths and anuses of the innocent boys in their care.

Was that statement too obscene for you? Funny, because it really happened to real children by real priests (and lots of other people who don’t even know what Manga is). Why on earth would a man like Handley, who merely possessed drawings of things you don’t like, be subjected to more years in prison than the men who perform the acts you cannot bear to read upon REAL CHILDREN? That, not Handley, is what is disgusting in this society and world. Perhaps if Handley suddenly found Jesus he would be treated with real justice in a nation that touts its freedom of thought while failing to practice what it preaches.

Worth reading is the BoingBoing post about Handley’s unfortunate situation. Also some of the comments are right on target, and I’m going to quote a few of my favorites right here:

-verde-

Thought Police at the door sir:

-Have you ever in your head pictured an infant being raped?

-No.

-Not even now that we brought up the subject?

-Well, mmm I guess so.

-Could you come with us?

-spazzm-

And who exactly decides what is artistic or immoral?

Erotica is artistic, porn is immoral, smut is illegal.
Erotica is what excites me, porn is what excites you, smut is what excites them.

-anonymous-

One of the questions I have is why the assumption is that such content serves the sole purpose of titillation or arousal for the reader. Yes, its principle intent may be that, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the reader views it that way. I have books of Toshio Saeki’s work that I have brought back from Europe in the last ten years (and not without concern they would be confiscated at customs or worse). His work is *extremely* difficult to look at, and often incorporates children in sexual situations with adults. I do not find this at all arousing, and in fact, I find it shocking and disturbing. But I find his work incredibly beautiful, challenging and it inspires me to ask questions of myself as I look at it. So, where is that part of it? We must be allowed to examine the work of others that we ourselves may not agree with or even like…And I don’t want to live in a world where we’re not allowed to express even the darkest parts of our psyche…which no one is above. Some just keep it to themselves better than others.

Spare the whole “it inspires others to act”. Pete Townsend has a quote about that.

Then there’s that whole problem of suppressing thoughts and artistic expression. You know. That kinda poses ongoing problems. Telling people what they can / can’t think / express / consider doesn’t really work so great.

And, I highly agree with what was said earlier about cultural misunderstandings related to the taboo depiction of pubic hair making these characters appear to be children.

This is tragic. Very scary, very sad that he pled guilty without proper counsel. (I’m a mid-30’s white female, btw).

-anonymous-

Wow. I guess I better get ready for prison. I drew a picture of myself having sex with a cartoon girl (…after cutting her cartoon head off). By this standard, I’m guilty of sex crimes against children. I didn’t even get to “play doctor” as a kid. :(

If we really wanted to protect children, the US Catholic Church should be (temporarily) shut down and have all the clergy FBI checked and registered (fingerprints and DNA, you pervy bastards). Let’s start with the real criminals. Remember the psychologist in Happiness who was a pedophile? He jerked himself off to a male teen magazine in the back of his car (one of my all-time favorite cringe comedy moments). Those are the PEOPLE you should be worried about having pictures fuel their desire. It won’t be the loli.

I am a victim of child sexual abuse in two ways. I was abused as a teen, and my first attempt at intercourse was destroyed by my adult partner’s sobs of physical and psychological pain. She had been raped as a young girl. I carried that crushing guilt with me for several years after that.

Show me comics/drawings of someone’s fantasy/nightmare of raping and killing children, I may enjoy it. I may abhor it. I might fantasize about killing the person who made it. I might masturbate to it and cry afterward. In the privacy of my home and in my mind, I should be able to do anything I want with it.

Should I go to jail for thoughts?

In the meantime, I’m going to be renaming all of my folders “midget porn.”

-Redsquares-

In other news, millions arrested for owning copies of Gauguin’s works and early sketches.

I’d hate to see what happens to Scheile collectors.

God dammit, under this sort of law, my paper on Bellmer I wrote for art history is enough to throw most of that class in jail. Dude drew bisected nude girls, in a clearly sexualized nature. Damn good drawings, aesthetically and technically: well done, good composition, and were done to fuck with the Nazis to boot, but still… what does that prove?

It’s obvious you are a sick fuck, no matter what the hell you do. Someone, somewhere, is against it for the pure purpose of being against it, the only question is: can they convince others to be against it too?

-blueelm-

What a strange situation. It was my understanding that the posession of photographic child pornography was illegal because it encouraged the assault and mistreatment of the children in the picture. In other words it is documentation of abuse.

It is a strange and tough argument about manga and I don’t know exactly how I feel, but while our children are fetishised to a large degree in the US there is a distinction between a predatory pedophile, your nasty uncle, and people who collect drawings of little girls being split in half by squid with hardware. I’m not sure that the latter influences the former, as the person molesting one’s child is more likely to be a good friend or spouse than a sexually-frustrated comic collector.

I think the Gacey clown of pain model sticks in people’s heads, but remember that he actually interacted with kids… not drawings of them. Secondly while we may be stigmatizing our kids by putting them in beauty pageants and American Apparel ads, the objective of some one who compulsively rapes small children is not to worship the adult-like beauty of a little girl but rather to have sex with her because it fufuls a compulsive need. As far as sympathy for them, I’m not sure about these teach-a-lesson type laws, but I see no problem with confining a serious enough offender from the rest of society, but some one with some drawings? Really?

By the same token it makes me sad that there is probably some one who has actually raped a little girl who will serve less jailtime than this guy will for having some troubling drawings. As far as the drawings, as an artist, I can’t help but think that these things must be tolerated.

Okay, that’s enough for now. Check out the BoingBoing comment thread and KOS for a lot more on both sides of the issue.

If you have some extra money, donate it to CBLDF. If you know someone who is about to get in trouble for possessing cartoons (or a book, etc.), refer the person to CBLDF and the ACLU.

  1. “Comics and print cartoons (sometimes also called komikku コミック), in the Japanese language and conforming to the style developed in Japan in the late 20th century.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga [<]
  2. Here’s a link via Wired of his actual plea agreement. I think he screwed himself. [<]
  3. I’m sure that statement will get some unwanted Google hits to my blog. [<]
  4. If you missed it, the argument was about Lisa Simpson, the cartoon character, being depicted in sexual situations, and a law in Australia was being applied. My earlier article also referred to the U.S. Protect Act and related laws that have arisen in the Handley case. [<]
  5. No, I’m not taking credit for it, but I did post it in December, damnit! [<]

God and Reason

Friday, December 26th, 2008

Someone who professed to be Christian once said to me, “If I didn’t believe what I believe, I would be living a whole different kind of life.” I wish I had asked him to elaborate, although in the context in the conversation, I got the impression that he meant he’d be living a much less moral existence. The implication here is that religion or god or gods are the source of morality and basic value systems.

I would have to disagree.

While I am sure there are many of the religious stripe who would be less moral individuals if they did not believe, that says nothing about the source of ethical behavior. These particular individuals are driven to “proper” behavior by a promise of eternal reward, or, if they fail, punishment. Their reasoning is, why else be ethical, if it will mean nothing in the end? They say that if god commands it, it must be good, and the ends justify the means. But, is that what morality truly means?

I am sure there is a view that many believers take of agnostics and atheists – that they must be immoral individuals since they are uninterested in taking orders from a higher power. This shows poor logic, but that is not surprising, considering the uneasy relationship logic and religion have had over the years. God and morality are not a package deal. God belief doesn’t make a person moral, and neither does lack of belief make a person immoral. The point is, one does not need to believe in, or even be aware of, a god to be moral, good, or just.

Religion doesn’t give human nature much credit. Many things known to be instinctual behaviors are considered “sinful” by most religious standards. But human nature is not dumb. Certainly, things like the instinct to eat and breed have kept the species alive. But those are not the only kinds of survival mechanisms that humans have evolved. A majority of us have a strong sense of wanting to help others; at the very least our immediate family members. While initially, altruistic behavior probably evolved from selfish means in order to establish and maintain communities, this doesn’t mean that it cannot be intrinsic to one’s being. My having a conscience does not necessitate belief in a god or a religion and its stipulations. I will always wish for the happiness of my friends and family, and I still make it a point to do the right thing. Do I do this because someone or some establishment tells me to? No. I do it because I want to, because that is the kind of person I want to be, whether I am rewarded for it or not, whether it meets the approval of a clergy or not, and whether it is what god wants or not. The reward is that hopefully, I will contribute to the happiness of others. Often, though, even when the right thing is done, there is no reward at all, and sometimes, there is even punishment. While this can be frustrating, it doesn’t change the fact that I think the right thing should be done, and that morality is not about the reward at the end, but about doing what is best, no matter the consequences to oneself. I will clarify that what is best is rarely found in a set of rules that were written down millennia ago. I think “what is best” will usually present itself in the form of “what causes the least amount of suffering for all involved?”

I will make the assumption that even if there is a god, then we can know nothing about it, under the standard definition of “god”. The gods that all the various religions describe are not terribly impressive, and if I were to be convinced of their existence, then I would be harder pressed to be convinced to worship them. Descriptions of god have made “him” out to be alternately jealous and forgiving, wrathful and loving, having a “plan”, but still requiring our prayers for intervention. If anything, god sounds like he was made in man’s image, instead of vice-versa. This shows not only a lack of imagination, but also a lack of god-like features one might expect from a being dubbed as the “almighty”.

Keeping that in mind, I will use a popular argument against the traditional notion of god. With all the suffering in the world, that an all-knowing god is surely aware of, he either can’t do anything about it (which contradicts him being all-powerful), or he won’t (which contradicts his supposed “loving” nature). How could a god who loves us so, allow for the horrible things that happen? Of particular curiosity to me are the Jews. They believe they have a covenant with god; that he has promised to protect them, that they are the “chosen people”. Why then, have they been consistently sought out for complete extermination for thousands of years? Why did their god allow the Egyptian Pharoah to enslave them, and then hardened Pharoah’s heart when Moses asked for their freedom? Where was their god during the rise of Nazi Germany? Was he looking out for them then? It almost seems like a cruel joke. Whoever this god is, he doesn’t seem terribly dependable, nor merciful, or even fatherly. He actually seems quite negligent, and if I were Jewish, I would have trouble reconciling some of these facts.

Of course, the usual response from the religious on these matters is that we are not to question god, and that he works in mysterious ways. I would think any god worth his salt wouldn’t need this sort of reasoning to excuse his inexplicably sloppy guardianship. I think what’s really happening here is that we’re searching for a why, and when there isn’t one, we invoke god’s “plan” as the basis for the atrocious acts that happen in the world every day. Honestly, though, I would rather believe that nearly everything is completely random, and that’s why bad things happen to good people, and good things happen to bad people. I would rather think that than to tell myself that there is some grand purpose that requires the pain and suffering of innocent people (children in particular). If, as a human, I allowed for the suffering of others, and justified it by saying that it was suiting some greater purpose of mine, I would be called a tyrant. I would be called selfish, and callous, and uncaring. Yet, when “god” is brought into it, then it becomes okay. Why?

Another oddity of religion is that it makes us think we can be immortal. The one thing that is sure to happen to us – death – is the one we deny over and over again, through religion. Sigmund Freud has said that a belief in the afterlife is wish fulfillment, the wish that we and our loved ones do not have to die. While I generally disagree with just about every other conclusion about humans Freud has made, I have to give him credit on this one. When I contemplate my own death, it makes me terribly uncomfortable. Contemplating the death of my husband and children is even more frightening. I cannot imagine how devastating it is to lose someone you love as much as I love them. I can understand the comfort it would bring to believe that I would see them again someday. However, I have no reason to believe this, aside from the fact that it would make me feel good, and that is not reason enough. Religion denies this reality, and I think it’s too bad.

I’ll explain why.

Thinking that we go on forever, that all the people we love are always going to be here – that’s the kind of attitude that allows us to take people for granted. When I go back to contemplating my eventual demise, it makes me realize that chances are good that this is the only life I get, the only chance I will have to spend time with the people I care about. It makes me value my time here more, because if this really is it, then I had better make the best of it. The only thing that may go on is memories of me in the minds of others, and that is incentive enough to live my life the best that I can. Punishment and reward has nothing to do with it, and neither does any god. Reason alone provides enough motivation to be ethical, and to love my family as much as I can, while I can.

The inevitable query, “But what if you’re wrong?” usually comes up at this point. What if, what if, what if…I suppose I could be wrong. If there’s a god, and it created everything, then it created me. It gave me this mind, these analytical skills, and these ideas. It gave me reason, but not faith. Keep in mind that I do not choose to be faithless; I just simply am. In the same way that I don’t choose to hate mushrooms or country music – I just do, and like having no faith, it is not something that I can help. Why would god make me, and countless others, this way, only to punish us eternally in the end for it? Another cosmic joke? Are these my choices? I must say, I haven’t been given much to work with. Sure, I could go to church and try to spread the gospel and hope that it grows on me. In the meantime, though, I would merely be operating out of a fear of hell. And I would still be faithless. Truthfully, I don’t think I would be much different than many other church-goers in that respect.

The usual reply here from theists is that I must sincerely ask god to come into my heart. You think I never tried that? You think that I just decided atheism sounded good and went into it with absolutely no investigation whatsoever? You would be wrong to assume as such. Like many atheists, I struggled with my beliefs for several years. Instead of quieting my concerns, my search only yielded more questions. With no faith to build on, and no real answers, I realized that I could not say I believed in any god while remaining intellectually honest. A more truthful statement would be that I would love it if there was a god that allowed for an afterlife where I could be with my family again. But do I really believe in it? No.

Does this make me immoral? Does this make me evil? Depends on who you ask. When it comes to believers, there are some that believe that even those who haven’t been saved but who still do good works, are good people. And there are some that believe that good works have nothing to do with it – that it’s all about your salvation. That is, you may be a serial killer, but if you repent, you will get further with god than an atheist who devotes his life to helping others. Once again, a belief like that seems downright harmful when it comes down to what we do know: That we’re here now. The concept of a repentant criminal receiving better treatment than a charitable atheist is pretty ridiculous, considering that the atheist is doing something right now to make things tangibly better – in this life that is guaranteed real – while there are believers who allow suffering because they don’t see the point in intervening.

So going back to the original statement, that believing in something makes one moral… those are the people I wonder about: the ones who are moral simply because god says so. What kind of people are they really, on the inside? To need a reward and/or approval to act properly – I think that’s juvenile. Only children operate like that. Adults are defined as such by knowing better. I guess for those adults that feel that god is keeping them in line, I should be thankful for religion, because who knows what kind of people they would be otherwise.

Atheism, a Positive Pillar

Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008

In this article Atheism, a Positive Pillar by Tom Krattenmaker, the idea is explored that in the future, declaring yourself an atheist might not be committing political suicide.

It’s not easy not believing in God in the USA. That’s why a group of non-believers is trying to shed the strident image of past atheists by promoting a better side of those sitting on religion’s sidelines.

Being an atheist is not easy in this age of great public religiosity in America. Not when the overwhelming majority of Americans profess some form of belief in God. Not when many believers equate non-belief with immorality. Not when more people would automatically disqualify an atheist for the presidency (53%, according to a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll) than a gay candidate (43%), for example, or a Mormon (24%).

Anti-atheism might have found its ugliest public expression during an episode in the Illinois Legislature this spring. As atheist activist Rob Sherman attempted to testify against a $1 million state grant to a church, Rep. Monique Davis railed, “This is the Land of Lincoln where people believe in God, where people believe in protecting their children. … It’s dangerous for our children to even know that your philosophy exists! … You have no right to be here! We believe in something. You believe in destroying!”

Lest we dismiss the legislator’s harangue as an anomaly, consider the organizations that bar atheists from membership — the Boy Scouts of America and American Legion, to name two, as well as some local posts of the Veterans of Foreign Wars — and the conspicuous absence of openly atheist politicians on the national stage.

Mindful of atheism’s reviled reputation, a new current in non-belief is intent on showing the public what atheists are for. You might be surprised by what’s on their short list. Because, save for the belief-in-a-deity part, it sounds a lot like what most Americans value. Care for one’s community and fellow human beings, love of country and cherished American principles, the pursuit and expansion of knowledge — these are the elements of the new “positive atheism.

Read the full article here

-HAL

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The Suicide Donation Club

Monday, September 15th, 2008

It is the year 2033.

Much has changed.

You are getting old, but still have a lot of life left in you. Well, you would if it weren’t for your failing kidneys. The law has become much more liberal, more laissez faire, more libertarian. The law allows you to go to a Donation Center to acquire fresh and healthy organs. Since suicide has become legal and even desirable in certain social groups (for many reasons, one of which is the idea that by committing suicide, it helps cut down the human population, which eases the strain on an already overcrowded planet (in certain areas)), the Donation Center has negotiated with the Suicide Club to provide healthy organs for those in need. This system, in the years since its inception, has saved hundreds of thousands of lives, and prolonged the lives of many of civilization’s finest members. There are, of course, factions that disagree with this donation method, but the traditional wait list for organ transplants has been abandoned in favor of this more efficient system. All donors do so voluntarily, and the underground organ harvesting market has all but ceased to exist. In addition, since the entire economic system has been revamped, it doesn’t cost anyone anything to get an organ transplant, which makes high bidding for organs obsolete.

Out of curiosity (and perhaps necessity), you visit a Donation Center to learn what it’s all about and to evaluate your options.

The way the system works is that you have the choice of whether or not to meet your donor (and that also depends on the urgency of the transplant necessity). Meeting the donor has often helped transplant recipients understand that the donor is doing everything voluntarily. Other organs from the donor are distributed as necessary to those in need. The high population of the planet as well as advances in modern medical technology have allowed for organs to be extracted and maintained in stasis indefinitely, and are more compatible with a wider variety of recipients. It’s a clean and regulated system, and there is 100% disclosure on the part of the Center and the medical regulators.

Your options:

1. Accept the kidney donation, which will end the life of the voluntary donor (and the donor is well aware of this), and you will live at least 20 more years (if not more).

2. Do not accept the kidney donation, which will result in your death via kidney failure within a few days.

Sub-options: (you should choose either main option and you should also choose either sub-option, no matter what main option you chose)

a. Meet with your donor.
b. Do not meet with your donor.

[so, for example, you can pick 1.a. or 1.b. or 2.a. or 2.b. (Yes, you can meet with your donor even if you choose not to go through with the transplant.) ]

Accept all the statements of the hypothetical to be true.

What option do you choose, and why?

Follow-up questions:

1. If you chose to meet with your donor, what questions would you ask?

2. If you chose not to meet with your donor, why did you choose not to?

3. If you were executive leader of a country whose legislature was about to pass a law to allow such a system, would you veto that law? Why or why not?

4. If you could live forever (no dying of “old age”) (without harming anyone to do so), would you?

5. If you could live forever, but at the cost of a voluntary donor for every ten years of life, would you?

6. If you could live forever, but at the cost of a single involuntary donor, would you?

7. Would you ever consider being a donor in a system like this? (with the stipulation that it’d be pretty much the last thing you ever do)

8. If the hypothetical were altered such that the system were identical except for the fact that recipients had to pay donors directly, in whatever amounts they negotiated, would you pass such a system into law?

9. If you were “running the government”, and you had the choice as to whether to make this system into a “free universal health care” covered system, an “insurance” system, or a “pure libertarian” (citizens/doctors/hospitals/recipients/donors figure out on their own how to pay or not pay) system, which would you choose, and why? Or do you have a different type of economic system with regard to the donation system that you’d implement?

10. Do you see an analogy between this scenario and prostitution?

11. Is suicide immoral? Why or why not?

StOP

Carnival of the Godless #91

Sunday, May 11th, 2008

Welcome to the 91st Edition of the Carnival of the Godless! This is my deflowering, so please don’t be too harsh! I’m fortunate to have hosted a selected article in an earlier Carnival, and I think the Carnival is one of the best things to happen to the rational community since the passing of the International Rationalist Rights Law.

What? There’s no International Rationalist Rights Law? Damnit, we gotta work on that.

Anyway, there is no particular order to the list that follows, and I’ve refrained from indicating the system of selection. I will let you know, however, that the majority of submissions that didn’t make it failed to meet the COTG guidelines (and I’m fairly flexible with those). The included articles are certainly an interesting and often informative read, and I hope you enjoy and give these authors (and their hosts, if different) a round of virtual applause for standing up for rationality and trying to spread the word through their writing.

Without further blabbering, let the Carnival begin!

The Theistic Me vs The Atheistic Me
The Chaplain from The Apostate’s Chapel questions the value of a theistic mindset.

What does the atheistic you miss, if anything, about the theistic you?
My initial, knee-jerk reaction to this question was, “Absolutely nothing.”

Prayer and Disc Golf
Jeremy from Endcycle compares prayer to social expression.

“Yeah, Jeremy, it’s harmless and pointless.. just like prayer, right?”

Oh.
I get it.
See, he’s making a jab at my pretty staunchly “screw your prayers” atheist position. I ranted at him a bit about how my yelling at a disc isn’t quite like people withholding medicines from a dying child and felt vaguely superior about myself for a moment or 3.

Moral Relativism and Why I do not Embrace it
Divided by Zero refuses to accept moral relativism. Find out why.

[H]istory has shown us that all moral values that we accept in the western society are the result of such processes. A merciless war of ideas where only the ones that were competitively superior could survive. I cannot bring myself to call this process objective for I truly do not see it as such.

Debunking Christianity 25: The Ignorance of Evil
Anath from The Antichristian Phenomenon examines the concept of Evil throughout time, from Plato to Nietzsche.

“[O]bedience”, “selflessness”, and “respect” are labeled as “good” while “violence,” “Anything Non-Christian,” and “nonconformists” are labeled “evil”.

SIWOTI: Someone is Wrong on the Internet
B.T. Murtagh from quarkscrew provides a concise rebuttal to the “Christian Nation” assertion.

Several insisted that the wall of separation between Church and State wasn’t intended to apply to Christianity – in one case while making a big point out of the fact that the phrase doesn’t actually appear in the Constitution. That’s true, if irrelevant: the phrase actually comes from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association, praising the anti-Establishment Clauses of the First Amendment.

“Self Evidence”: Truth or Truthiness?
At Five Public Opinions, AV questions whether certain moral propositions need justification.

Frankly, I don’t like arguments from self-evidence, and I think we should be very careful with them. In logic they might be OK: “it is self-evident that all bachelors are unmarried,” and so forth. In ethics, appeals to self-evidence seem to me to constitute little more than arrogant presumptiousness on the part of those making them.

Frustration
DagoodS from Thoughts From a Sandwich criticizes a common double standard (hosted by The Barefoot Bum).

It is frustration borne out of deliberate embrace of willful refusal to inform oneself. Past experience has demonstrated these advocates have a complete lack of empathy for any argument that does not exactly conform to their own limited view of the world; therefore I do not expect them to understand the comparison. Perhaps a lurker would like to know.

John Hagee, The Roman Catholic Church, The Antichrist, Hitler, The Holocaust, (all on one convenient chart)
The Whited Sepulchre predicts further Christian sectarian strife as we near the 2008 presidential election.

I think Hagee and Jeremiah Wright will soon put together a vaudeville-style tour, where they’ll bring their theological wisdom to bear on the great issues of the day.

It’s true… God is not the Leading Cause of War
At Disillusioned Words, Jeffrey Stingerstein examines some pitfalls of faith.

I do not think that religions should be outlawed. And the religious should NOT be persecuted for their beliefs. But they only deserve the same respect that belief in Zeus is accorded in today’s society.

They Got Horse Racing in Heaven
The Ridger at The Greenbelt wonders why God killed Eight Belles.

God wanted her in his stable? God put her in the Derby, let her run well, and then killed her?

The Bible is Immoral. Let’s Move on.
At Disillusioned Words, Jeffrey Stingerstein researches client-patron relations and whether they offered some justification for the distinction between perceptions of scripture “then” and “now.”

I was recently told, after quoting Bible passages about infanticide and pillaging villages: “You are reading the text as if it were yesterday’s USA Today – as a 21st Century American. The ancient world was vastly different than the modern world….”

Demons Made my Daughter an Anorexic Lesbian
Sean the Blogonaut F.C.D. uncovers “The hidden danger of narrow faith based mental health provision.”

There seems to be unwritten, or unspoken understanding that anything Christian is both homogenous in the way it will handle social justice and mental health situations and by default have the clients best interests as a priority.

God is Brain-Dead
No More Mr. Nice Guy sees dead people. Brain-dead people, that is.

Walk around any large city and you will see mentally disturbed street people hanging around, picking fights with imaginary companions, and what not. Suppose I told you of a man who spends hours every day standing at a wall, rocking back and forth repetitively, droning on and on in a monotone directed at some invisible person that no-one else can see. You would probably conclude that the man is deluded, at the very least obsessive-compulsive, and in need of treatment lest he harm himself and possibly others.

What Would Convince You That You Were Wrong? The Difference Between Secular and Religious Faith
Is Religious Faith Irrational?
[These two posts from the same site are actually a single article in two parts. I've included both for continuity and clarity. -Pro]
Greta Christina has a unique and interesting take on faith and its distinctions.

I’m irritated by the argument that, because atheists don’t have faith in God, we therefore don’t have faith in anything. And at the same time, I’m irritated by the argument that, because atheists do have faith in things and can take leaps of faith, therefore an atheist’s secular faith in love and whatnot isn’t really any different from religious belief.

The Limits of Respect
Seth Manapio at Whiskey Before Breakfast…The Blog recounts an insightful anecdote about tolerance and respect.

[A]pparently the ex-boss said that she “had to respect” the daughter’s beliefs.

“No,” I said. “She doesn’t.”

Immanentizing the Z-Eschaton
Masks of Eris justifiably fears literal biblical interpretations.

I do not think there is a God, any god. If I did, what would I do? Probably scream in terror, since what follows is the “best” scenario I can think of.

Conservation of Good & Bad
Barry Leiba at Staring at Empty Pages has an interesting theory about the power and casualties of prayer.

Suppose… just suppose… that God’s master plan involves some sort of balance of good things and bad things. And that maybe the plan doesn’t call for a one-for-one sort of thing, but just an overall kind of balance, on a large scale.

Aliens, Mummies, and The Visit
Ordinary Girl (Tales of Ordinary Girl) contemplates experimentation while dealing with her religious relatives.

It’s not just that religion was ingrained in me from birth. I think I have shed most religious indoctrination. But it’s more in the way I interact with the world. I still have that skin of acceptability which I hide behind. You know, be respectful of religion and religious leaders, don’t express disbelief or any kind of skepticism about religious beliefs, and especially don’t encourage anyone else to pursue their skepticism.

Christian Nation, Prison Nation
VJACK at Atheist Revolution correlates prison populations with Christian influence, and suggests causation.

I am intrigued that the people most likely to proclaim that the United States is a Christian nation also tend to be those most responsible for perpetuating our status as the world’s leading prison nation.

A Non-Believer in Church: St. Peter’s Episcopal at Oxford
Oliver at Mississippi Atheists recounts an expedition to an Episcopal church from his non-believing perspective.

Most of the service was foreign to me. The services began with a procession of people in white robes holding various holy relics like a Bible or a Cross. I did not understand a single action of the minister. He had a metal ball that produced smoke that he started swinging at a candle. There is a deeper symbolic reference here I’m sure, but I’ve read the Bible from cover to cover and must have missed the references to a metal ball, the smoke, and the candle.

I don’t Believe in People Who Don’t Believe in Me
Natasha at Homo Academicus critiques an interview with Chris Hedges, author of “I Don’t Believe in Atheists.”

By calling new atheism “fundamentalist” he is not-so-subtly describing it in religious terms, playing into that tired out debate that atheism is a religion too. If you want atheists to take your message seriously, as indeed he must by agreeing to be interviewed on a notoriously atheistic podcast, you can’t start out by insulting them.

The Trouble With Prayer
Aaron Ross Powell explains why prayer is not a suitable replacement for personal responsibility.

Evil people do terrible things. This fact is not in dispute. But why a wholly benevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient god allows those terrible acts is a question that has plagued the faith of the religious since the time of the pre-Socratic Greeks. This is known as theodicy, or the problem of evil.

Questions of Morality
Lori at Between Us Girls asks some potent questions about our assumptions and our perceptions of morality.

Psst…I have a secret to tell you. You might find it quite shocking. Religion does not have a corner on the morality market.

Better Evangelism?
Anthroslug questions whether there is a better form of evangelism.

The basic problem that I have encountered with evangelism is that it tends to work from the premise that the person being evangelized needs to be “saved” – and condescension and insult naturally follows from there.

Vengeful Paths to Truth
Mark Koester, the Mystic Atheist, examines justice in light of retribution and forgiveness.

This is a paradox point to our social logic. Justice is about remembering and retribution. Forgiveness is about a kind of forgetting and a way of creating anew as sharing partners and joined story-tellers. Society must seek both, paradoxically.

Ayala to IDers – ‘God is the greatest abortionist’
SocraticGadfly recounts an influential concept that helped him achieve godlessness.

Francisco Ayala, one of the world’s greatest evolutionary biologists, AND one of the most renowned biological scientists openly defending the compatibility of evolution and religious belief, has been a busy man with the controversy over “Expelled.”

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