Comments on: To Sue or Not to Sue… The President http://www.stateofprotest.com/religion/to-sue-or-not-to-sue-the-president/ Rational Activism at Work Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:29:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: vjack http://www.stateofprotest.com/religion/to-sue-or-not-to-sue-the-president/#comment-7976 vjack Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:53:25 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=271#comment-7976 It makes a difference because it removes the free speech issue. As for a class action suit, I don't know. Let's see how Newdow's case goes. It makes a difference because it removes the free speech issue.

As for a class action suit, I don't know. Let's see how Newdow's case goes.

]]> By: vjack http://www.stateofprotest.com/religion/to-sue-or-not-to-sue-the-president/#comment-7852 vjack Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:30:04 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=271#comment-7852 Interesting questions. I'll have to give this some thought. You are right that both positions have some merit. Obviously, there should be no mention of gods in the oath. This bothers me more than the presence of generic clergy (but not Rick Warren). I don't know - my head's stuck on this Indiana library debacle right now. I'll have to give this one more thought. Interesting questions. I'll have to give this some thought. You are right that both positions have some merit. Obviously, there should be no mention of gods in the oath. This bothers me more than the presence of generic clergy (but not Rick Warren). I don't know – my head's stuck on this Indiana library debacle right now. I'll have to give this one more thought.

]]> By: Procrustes http://www.stateofprotest.com/religion/to-sue-or-not-to-sue-the-president/#comment-7853 Procrustes Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:30:04 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=271#comment-7853 Do you think that technicality really makes that much of a difference? Also, should we start a class action lawsuit against nearly every court for having the words "In God We Trust" on courtroom walls? (especially behind judges) Do you think that technicality really makes that much of a difference?

Also, should we start a class action lawsuit against nearly every court for having the words "In God We Trust" on courtroom walls? (especially behind judges)

]]> By: Darren Pearce http://www.stateofprotest.com/religion/to-sue-or-not-to-sue-the-president/#comment-7857 Darren Pearce Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:30:04 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=271#comment-7857 While I feel that we should be more visible and outspoken as a group, I fear that the First Amendment argument is valid enough that perhaps a lawsuit IS NOT in order . Public commentary, however, has never been more necessary. While I feel that we should be more visible and outspoken as a group, I fear that the First Amendment argument is valid enough that perhaps a lawsuit IS NOT in order . Public commentary, however, has never been more necessary.

]]> By: Noumenon http://www.stateofprotest.com/religion/to-sue-or-not-to-sue-the-president/#comment-7864 Noumenon Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:30:04 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=271#comment-7864 I agree with Darren on this one. I think a strong statement apposing the inaugural prayer is called for, but a lawsuit is going overboard. I agree with Darren on this one. I think a strong statement apposing the inaugural prayer is called for, but a lawsuit is going overboard.

]]> By: vjack http://www.stateofprotest.com/religion/to-sue-or-not-to-sue-the-president/#comment-7867 vjack Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:30:04 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=271#comment-7867 Okay, I've thought about it a little more and now have a position. I believe that the lawsuit is a good idea and should proceed with one important caveat. It should be made extremely clear to all that Obama is perfectly free to add "so help me god" if he desires to do so. The crux of the complaint should be on Roberts prompting him with the phrase. That is, Obama should be free to add, but it should not be part of the official oath from Roberts. Okay, I've thought about it a little more and now have a position. I believe that the lawsuit is a good idea and should proceed with one important caveat. It should be made extremely clear to all that Obama is perfectly free to add "so help me god" if he desires to do so. The crux of the complaint should be on Roberts prompting him with the phrase. That is, Obama should be free to add, but it should not be part of the official oath from Roberts.

]]> By: CaptainLaura http://www.stateofprotest.com/religion/to-sue-or-not-to-sue-the-president/#comment-7868 CaptainLaura Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:30:04 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=271#comment-7868 I think a lawsuit is going a bit too far, for right now. It's generally best to pick your battles, and I think there are bigger fish to fry at the moment. No reason to give the other side fodder for considering atheists to be angry and petty, especially when there is an argument to be made for retaining freedom of speech (albeit in a grey area). I think the payoff is likely to be very small (or nonexistent) and not worth the effort. I think a lawsuit is going a bit too far, for right now. It's generally best to pick your battles, and I think there are bigger fish to fry at the moment. No reason to give the other side fodder for considering atheists to be angry and petty, especially when there is an argument to be made for retaining freedom of speech (albeit in a grey area). I think the payoff is likely to be very small (or nonexistent) and not worth the effort.

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