Comments on: Shar’iah Law Rocks

By: Leto II

Leto II — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:07:59 +0000

Rhetorical Despotism leads to self fulfilling prophecy and justifications for all manner of obscenities. It shields evil behind walls of self righteousness which are proof against all arguments against the evil. It feeds on deliberately twisted meanings to discredit opposition. This path leads directly to hypocrisy which is always betrayed by the gap between actions and explanations, they never agree. Ultimately, it rules by guilt because hypocrisy brings on the witch hunt and the demand for scapegoats. Do you recognize the source of this Despotism?

By: State of Protest » Best StOP Posts of the Entire Friggin Year - 2008

State of Protest » Best StOP Posts of the Entire Friggin Year - 2008 — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:14:48 +0000

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By: Scream Riot!

Scream Riot! — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:57:39 +0000

You are VERY right Pro, about what you said about the wall of protection. I come from such a culture/religion and I wish I didn’t. It makes me sick that even in my liberal family, their viewpoints have undertones of racism and prejudice. Yes, not all ‘Muslims’ are like that, but what we see is what they show.

The media is not wrong about this, it happened, and it happens a lot.

I don’t see how ANYBODY could justify the actions of a state, or a group of individuals with lots of power, who live in accordance to Shar’iah law. It’s a vile, disgusting and barbaric law.

By: Anon

Anon — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:58:03 +0000

When are we going to realize that only Dexterism can save us from these terrible crimes??

By: Procrustes

Procrustes — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:10:10 +0000

You know what’s really stupid?

The fact that I’m called to defend my hatred of a practice that kills rape victims in order for the victim’s family to save face before Allah, but, because it’s religion, those killers are not put on the defensive. Why am I having to justify my call to end their practice? Why is there a wall of protection around them because it’s “culture” and “religion”?

Even if I’m completely wrong about the connection between religion and Shar’iah law, I am still justified in being horrified at the behavior of people who take part in and perpetuate such honor killings.

By: Laura

Laura — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:41:41 +0000

To Anita Brain, the woman with the ironic name:
Yes, let’s make them all Christians, so they will have verses like Deuteronomy 22: 23-24 at their disposal:

“If there be a damsel that is a virgin betrothed unto a husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them to death with stones; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbor’s wife: so thou shalt put away the evil from the midst of thee.”

By: Procrustes

Procrustes — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:00:49 +0000

Gar, you could be right. This could just be hype. It could just be the media making money on our emotions. I agree that the media would probably do such a thing.

However, if it’s the truth, and I can also see it as that, then how can I not be angry? Perhaps my anger doesn’t do anything, but, then again, perhaps someone will pick up on that anger and be in a position to investigate and stop this from happening.

I’d much rather be wrong about all this, but I don’t think my anger is wasted if it helps someone determine the truth.

By: Gar

Gar — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:12:45 +0000

You can’t judge based on what the media tells you. No matter how good or bad the media sounds, it is biased. They make their money from advertising dollars. If this really happened it is a travesty. But before you go off your rocker with judgment and hate, you have to visit for yourself the people involved. Hatred and getting sick of fucking planets helps no one.

By: Procrustes

Procrustes — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:56:45 +0000

San,

I learned that people use Shar’iah law to justify stoning a 13-year-old girl to death. This isn’t, by far, the first girl to die this way, and, if things keep going this way, she won’t be the last.

I agree that we should focus on the people who perpetrate the acts instead of the concepts that are the foundations of the acts. Which is why I said exactly that in my article.

Are you saying that you think someone could be justified in killing a girl because she was raped, and that we should just turn away? When you say “let their people handle it,” perhaps you’re ignoring the fact that the perpetrators of this heinous act ARE the people that handle what is handled there. The act, itself, is the handling of what they perceived, through a combination of scripture and religious law, as a divine insult, and they carried out their version of justice accordingly. The result is the painful suffering and death of a girl who did nothing wrong, and who wouldn’t have deserved such a fate if it weren’t for the religious influence over the people who killed her.

It’s a very simple sine qua non analysis. Were it not for Shar’iah law (or their unhindered interpretation and application of it), that girl would not have been stoned to death.

You seriously want to invoke “karmic debts”? That’s fantasy, superstition, unsupported bullshit, and the very reason people in my country verbally condemn others to hell, and people in other countries send victims prematurely to their graves.

By: san

san — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:46:17 +0000

Actually if you study the dynamics of Shar’iah Law you will see that actually many aspects of it are decent and humane. You cannot see for a second why kind of karmic debts that girl had. Try not to be so judgmental about these things. Just because a gang of murderers who have a grip on the village, who have the power to kill anyone in that village, thus they become the law in their own right. Just because these people do these atrocities doesnt make Shar’iah Law wrong. It is a different culture, respect it. They are murderers, let their people handle it, they have caused the hate of that girl’s family to stir. Please do not think there will be no retribution. Now lets talk about Shar’iah Law one of the things of Shar’iah Law is usury which our western banks are all too good at. Yes mate, Shar’iah Law forbids usury and so does Christianity, but sadly the followers seem to frolic in this evil device. Why dont you learn about Shar’iah Law before you start condemning it?