Comments on: Proposition 8, the Mormons, and the New “Separate But Equal” http://www.stateofprotest.com/morality/proposition-8-the-mormons-and-the-new-%e2%80%9cseparate-but-equal%e2%80%9d/ Rational Activism at Work Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:54:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: State of Protest - The Comic - 010 - State of Protest http://www.stateofprotest.com/morality/proposition-8-the-mormons-and-the-new-%e2%80%9cseparate-but-equal%e2%80%9d/#comment-7765 State of Protest - The Comic - 010 - State of Protest Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:24:56 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=105#comment-7765 [...] Proposition 8, the Mormons, and the New “Separate but Equal” [...] [...] Proposition 8, the Mormons, and the New “Separate but Equal” [...]

]]> By: Laura http://www.stateofprotest.com/morality/proposition-8-the-mormons-and-the-new-%e2%80%9cseparate-but-equal%e2%80%9d/#comment-6364 Laura Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:16:45 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=105#comment-6364 Lynda, If your claim that marriage is a solely Christian institution were true, then Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Wiccans, atheists, etc. would not get married. As we all know, there are people of all faiths who consider marriage “sacred,” as you do. Many homosexuals consider marriage to be sacred, and I’d really like to see some evidence for your claim that there was a time when homosexuals “didn’t care about marriage.” As I said, the beliefs that you hold surrounding your marriage are religious, but the contract you hold from the government is not. Our government’s purpose is not to uphold Christian principles; its purpose is to protect people of all faiths, as well as people of no faith, and allow all people equal rights and freedoms. Lynda,

If your claim that marriage is a solely Christian institution were true, then Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Wiccans, atheists, etc. would not get married. As we all know, there are people of all faiths who consider marriage “sacred,” as you do. Many homosexuals consider marriage to be sacred, and I’d really like to see some evidence for your claim that there was a time when homosexuals “didn’t care about marriage.” As I said, the beliefs that you hold surrounding your marriage are religious, but the contract you hold from the government is not. Our government’s purpose is not to uphold Christian principles; its purpose is to protect people of all faiths, as well as people of no faith, and allow all people equal rights and freedoms.

]]> By: Lynda http://www.stateofprotest.com/morality/proposition-8-the-mormons-and-the-new-%e2%80%9cseparate-but-equal%e2%80%9d/#comment-6363 Lynda Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:04:10 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=105#comment-6363 Near the end of your article you mention that many opponents to gay marriage act as though marriage were a religious contract, a religious monopoly. You went on to assert that it is actually a secular right granted by the government. You couldn’t be more wrong. God instituted the covenant of marriage when He created the first family. Long before any government on earth existed, marriage began. I have no problem with equal rights, there are already domestic partnership rights all over the country. But marriage is a different matter. Marriage was created by God and is therefore sacred. It cannot be re-defined to suit the personal preference of special interest groups. I remember well when homosexual groups claimed that they “didn’t care” about marriage–all they wanted were partnershiip rights. Now that they have been granted that, they’ve moved on to the “right” to marry. And I am appalled at the tactics being used to get their message out there–in addition to peaceful protests, there have been death threats to pastors, churches vandalized, and in at least one instance, worship services disrupted. Do you really think that stomping on the cross and throwing condoms in a church service will convince Christians to look more favorably on the homosexual’s demands? Near the end of your article you mention that many opponents to gay marriage act as though marriage were a religious contract, a religious monopoly. You went on to assert that it is actually a secular right granted by the government. You couldn’t be more wrong. God instituted the covenant of marriage when He created the first family. Long before any government on earth existed, marriage began. I have no problem with equal rights, there are already domestic partnership rights all over the country. But marriage is a different matter. Marriage was created by God and is therefore sacred. It cannot be re-defined to suit the personal preference of special interest groups. I remember well when homosexual groups claimed that they “didn’t care” about marriage–all they wanted were partnershiip rights. Now that they have been granted that, they’ve moved on to the “right” to marry. And I am appalled at the tactics being used to get their message out there–in addition to peaceful protests, there have been death threats to pastors, churches vandalized, and in at least one instance, worship services disrupted. Do you really think that stomping on the cross and throwing condoms in a church service will convince Christians to look more favorably on the homosexual’s demands?

]]> By: Laura http://www.stateofprotest.com/morality/proposition-8-the-mormons-and-the-new-%e2%80%9cseparate-but-equal%e2%80%9d/#comment-6038 Laura Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:33:48 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=105#comment-6038 JH, I could quite easily delete your comment, but I would like it to stand here as a testament of your character. A previous commenter thought it was innacurate to say that those who opposed Prop 8 did so out of hate or fear. I feel quite silly now for agreeing with him, as you and a few other commenters have clearly demonstrated the opposite of his claim. I feel immeasurably grateful not to carry around the vile hatred in my heart which you so clearly do. Additionally, it's quite sad that I have to actually point out that not only homosexuals care about homosexual rights. I am a straight woman, and my boyfriend and I both care deeply about equal rights for all. May reason be your guide, JH, and may you never bring children into this world. JH,

I could quite easily delete your comment, but I would like it to stand here as a testament of your character. A previous commenter thought it was innacurate to say that those who opposed Prop 8 did so out of hate or fear. I feel quite silly now for agreeing with him, as you and a few other commenters have clearly demonstrated the opposite of his claim. I feel immeasurably grateful not to carry around the vile hatred in my heart which you so clearly do.

Additionally, it’s quite sad that I have to actually point out that not only homosexuals care about homosexual rights. I am a straight woman, and my boyfriend and I both care deeply about equal rights for all.

May reason be your guide, JH, and may you never bring children into this world.

]]> By: JH in WA http://www.stateofprotest.com/morality/proposition-8-the-mormons-and-the-new-%e2%80%9cseparate-but-equal%e2%80%9d/#comment-6034 JH in WA Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:52:40 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=105#comment-6034 Well Laura, I guess by now you and your bull dyke lover aree back out on the sidewalk waving signs and thinking about how things WERE! I'm glad to see that you be able to toungue bash your lovers crotch as long as you wish, but when each of you look at the rings on your fingers, know that they are worth nothing more than the value of the material therin. To know that your feelings are not true and pure, and that any words or promises made between the two of you are also pointless and nulified. Have a great unmarried year----beaver eater JH Well Laura,

I guess by now you and your bull dyke lover aree back out on the sidewalk waving signs and thinking about how things WERE!

I’m glad to see that you be able to toungue bash your lovers crotch as long as you wish, but when each of you look at the rings on your fingers, know that they are worth nothing more than the value of the material therin. To know that your feelings are not true and pure, and that any words or promises made between the two of you are also pointless and nulified.

Have a great unmarried year—-beaver eater

JH

]]> By: Laura http://www.stateofprotest.com/morality/proposition-8-the-mormons-and-the-new-%e2%80%9cseparate-but-equal%e2%80%9d/#comment-6027 Laura Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:43:35 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=105#comment-6027 http://www.stateofprotest.com/2008/11/05/erasing-decades-of-moral-progress-with-proposition-8/ http://www.stateofprotest.com/2008/11/05/erasing-decades-of-moral-progress-with-proposition-8/

]]> By: Adam http://www.stateofprotest.com/morality/proposition-8-the-mormons-and-the-new-%e2%80%9cseparate-but-equal%e2%80%9d/#comment-6012 Adam Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:47:50 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=105#comment-6012 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it passed!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it passed!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Laura http://www.stateofprotest.com/morality/proposition-8-the-mormons-and-the-new-%e2%80%9cseparate-but-equal%e2%80%9d/#comment-5807 Laura Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:19:14 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=105#comment-5807 As I said, your "point" is indecipherable. Apparently, comprehension is also a problem. As I said, your “point” is indecipherable. Apparently, comprehension is also a problem.

]]> By: Nick http://www.stateofprotest.com/morality/proposition-8-the-mormons-and-the-new-%e2%80%9cseparate-but-equal%e2%80%9d/#comment-5686 Nick Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:50:00 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=105#comment-5686 Wow so you're going to bag on my grammar over the INTERNET and make no arguement to my point? God sometimes i hate athiest. GO ADAM W00T W00T Wow so you’re going to bag on my grammar over the INTERNET and make no arguement to my point? God sometimes i hate athiest.

GO ADAM W00T W00T

]]> By: Laura http://www.stateofprotest.com/morality/proposition-8-the-mormons-and-the-new-%e2%80%9cseparate-but-equal%e2%80%9d/#comment-5684 Laura Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:50:12 +0000 http://www.stateofprotest.com/?p=105#comment-5684 Nick, I have read your comment a few times over and it is no more clear than the first time. Perhaps English is not your first language, but with the current grammatical errors and incorrect sentence structures of your original post, I interpreted it as best I could. If you have another point to make, you'll have to figure out how to make it more clear. Nick, I have read your comment a few times over and it is no more clear than the first time. Perhaps English is not your first language, but with the current grammatical errors and incorrect sentence structures of your original post, I interpreted it as best I could. If you have another point to make, you’ll have to figure out how to make it more clear.

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