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	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t Buy Their BS, and Don&#8217;t Buy Their Stuff by CM</title>
		<link>http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/2007/12/07/dont-buy-their-bs-and-dont-buy-their-stuff/#comment-2627</link>
		<dc:creator>CM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hobby-Lobby International(RC) and Hobby Lobby (Craft) were founded the same year about 2 
or 3 months apart in the 60s (i think!), the copyright office had no way of 
knowing who named their store first at the time, so they allowed it. Hobby-Lobby  is indeed a physical store, and started out that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hobby-Lobby International(RC) and Hobby Lobby (Craft) were founded the same year about 2<br />
or 3 months apart in the 60s (i think!), the copyright office had no way of<br />
knowing who named their store first at the time, so they allowed it. Hobby-Lobby  is indeed a physical store, and started out that way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Much Is Too Much? by 7deadlysins</title>
		<link>http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/2008/08/15/how-much-is-too-much/#comment-2598</link>
		<dc:creator>7deadlysins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic article Pro. I think in terms of christianity Europe is already doing quite well in acknowledging that the church shouldn't have so much power. I can openly discuss religion with people and everyone I know is aware I am an atheist. I have no fear of repercussion. I have openly spoken about it while here in the states and received some negative feedback though. 

It's disgraceful that atheists here must feel the need to hide their beliefs and I think if that attitude ever changes we'll be onto something good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic article Pro. I think in terms of christianity Europe is already doing quite well in acknowledging that the church shouldn&#8217;t have so much power. I can openly discuss religion with people and everyone I know is aware I am an atheist. I have no fear of repercussion. I have openly spoken about it while here in the states and received some negative feedback though. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s disgraceful that atheists here must feel the need to hide their beliefs and I think if that attitude ever changes we&#8217;ll be onto something good.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Much Is Too Much? by Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/2008/08/15/how-much-is-too-much/#comment-2584</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good assessment.  I think it's important for atheists to cross over the line into making it known to others that they are an atheist.  There's no need to shout it from the rooftops (or maybe there is) but a shift needs to occur so that people are not afraid of disclosing this aspect of themselves.  We are never going to overcome the negative stigma until people have real-life examples of atheists who are not evil monsters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good assessment.  I think it&#8217;s important for atheists to cross over the line into making it known to others that they are an atheist.  There&#8217;s no need to shout it from the rooftops (or maybe there is) but a shift needs to occur so that people are not afraid of disclosing this aspect of themselves.  We are never going to overcome the negative stigma until people have real-life examples of atheists who are not evil monsters.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Catholic World Youth Day 2008 by Bookmarks about Shoelace</title>
		<link>http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/2008/07/17/catholic-world-youth-day-2008/#comment-2574</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookmarks about Shoelace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - bookmarked by 3 members originally found by Rhonda9 on 2008-07-22  Catholic World Youth Day 2008  http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/2008/07/17/catholic-world-youth-day-2008/ - bookmarked by 2 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] - bookmarked by 3 members originally found by Rhonda9 on 2008-07-22  Catholic World Youth Day 2008  <a href="http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/2008/07/17/catholic-world-youth-day-2008/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/2008/07/17/catholic-world-youth-day-2008/</a> - bookmarked by 2 [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dear Procrustes, I&#8217;m going to kill you! by velkyn</title>
		<link>http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/2008/07/23/dear-procrustes-im-going-to-kill-you/#comment-2485</link>
		<dc:creator>velkyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so proud of aigbusted in pursuing who the idiot was that sent a threat to Myers.  It seems that many who would make threats or say stupid things forget that there are indeed ways to find them and ways to document exactly what they did.  

I've never been directly threatened. In my experience, most Christians simply say that their big brother "God" will get you soon, oooh, so there.  This is quite a typical response by a bully who realizes that their antics aren't making people afraid of them anymore.  However, if I did recieve a direct threat, you bet I'd report it to the authorities, if only to show just how supposedly "TrueChristians" act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so proud of aigbusted in pursuing who the idiot was that sent a threat to Myers.  It seems that many who would make threats or say stupid things forget that there are indeed ways to find them and ways to document exactly what they did.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been directly threatened. In my experience, most Christians simply say that their big brother &#8220;God&#8221; will get you soon, oooh, so there.  This is quite a typical response by a bully who realizes that their antics aren&#8217;t making people afraid of them anymore.  However, if I did recieve a direct threat, you bet I&#8217;d report it to the authorities, if only to show just how supposedly &#8220;TrueChristians&#8221; act.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Author Profiles by wheels5894</title>
		<link>http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/procrustes/#comment-2483</link>
		<dc:creator>wheels5894</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a most interesting site. Of course, religion seems much more prominent in the USA than in the UK where on the whole one is undisturbed by theists, apart from JWs and Mormons knocking at the door! It certainly gives  one cause for thought to see the way religion is so controlling in the USA though we do have some trying to get creationism into schools here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a most interesting site. Of course, religion seems much more prominent in the USA than in the UK where on the whole one is undisturbed by theists, apart from JWs and Mormons knocking at the door! It certainly gives  one cause for thought to see the way religion is so controlling in the USA though we do have some trying to get creationism into schools here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Intolerable Tolerance by spider</title>
		<link>http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/2008/08/04/intolerable-tolerance/#comment-2470</link>
		<dc:creator>spider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! This is what I've been trying to say to people!

Oh man, I could go on for hours about veils and how hypocritical people have to be to ask for unconditional bans on hijab.  I'm really glad someone was able to articulate that it's not a matter of all or nothing:  we can rationally draw a line of where it is tolerable and where it isn't, without being arbitrary about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! This is what I&#8217;ve been trying to say to people!</p>
<p>Oh man, I could go on for hours about veils and how hypocritical people have to be to ask for unconditional bans on hijab.  I&#8217;m really glad someone was able to articulate that it&#8217;s not a matter of all or nothing:  we can rationally draw a line of where it is tolerable and where it isn&#8217;t, without being arbitrary about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Personal Responsibility is Paramount Especially in the Political Realm by Nam</title>
		<link>http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/2008/07/15/personal-responsibility-is-paramount-especially-in-the-political-realm/#comment-2425</link>
		<dc:creator>Nam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"if you hear negative things about America for 20 years, how can it not affect your viewpoint?"

I was a Christian for 17 years of my life, as were many ex-Atheists, or Agnostics, Ignostics, etc., are we to approach anything in which they or I heard for that period of time to what you state in what I quoted? I mean, how could it not affect their or my viewpoint even though they or I are not Christians anymore? How could it not have an impact on their lives, or even mine?

"I think we all agree that Mr. Obama was playing the Politician role when he claimed he never heard his pastor say unkind things about America."

What politician hasn't played the "politician role"? They're politicians, that's what they do to get elected, or re-elected, or just in general. I doubt very much there's a politician who hasn't done such a thing, and if they haven't, they probably will in the future. We all have skeletons in our closets, and most of us keep them there but politicians do not have that luxury as most others do. Are we to place blame on every little thing that someone else said as to what they must believe? He rejected his comments, he left the church, he basically disowned his preacher -- what more does the guy need to do? For you, and those like you, seems like a lot.

"This specific article is to be absolutely clear, not designed to be an attack on Mr. Obama."

This is exactly what it is. You've stated elsewhere that you dislike McCain as much as you dislike Obama -- when are we going to see your articles against McCain? I assume never.

You say that Obama is getting a free pass, please explain how? Most of the news I read, or watch on TV it's about what Obama did here, or said here, or yadda yadda yadda, yet when McCain makes gaffes, or associates himself with others, I do notice that people seem to forgive him as soon as he makes them, even if he doesn't recognize he did it (and denies it) or notices, and doesn't care. McCain actually makes more gaffes, more flip-flops than Obama does yet you're saying Obama is getting the free-pass? Yet the only people that call McCain on his is the "liberal media" and when they do it, it's discarded by those not "liberal" as being nothing but attacks, and rhetoric. The Reverend Wright thing when on for weeks (perhaps longer than that), he didn't get a free pass over it, he denounced, rejected etc., and still that doesn't seem to be enough for some people. Even his recent comments on what some (some being the Republicans, and the McCain campaign) are considering him using the "race card", I've heard it on the news for the past couple of days -- or is that also Obama getting a "free pass"? I think you're seeing things that aren't there.

There are things that I don't like about Obama but day after day there are more things I dislike about McCain (and his campaign) then Obama, and my vote is still for Obama.

-Nam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if you hear negative things about America for 20 years, how can it not affect your viewpoint?&#8221;</p>
<p>I was a Christian for 17 years of my life, as were many ex-Atheists, or Agnostics, Ignostics, etc., are we to approach anything in which they or I heard for that period of time to what you state in what I quoted? I mean, how could it not affect their or my viewpoint even though they or I are not Christians anymore? How could it not have an impact on their lives, or even mine?</p>
<p>&#8220;I think we all agree that Mr. Obama was playing the Politician role when he claimed he never heard his pastor say unkind things about America.&#8221;</p>
<p>What politician hasn&#8217;t played the &#8220;politician role&#8221;? They&#8217;re politicians, that&#8217;s what they do to get elected, or re-elected, or just in general. I doubt very much there&#8217;s a politician who hasn&#8217;t done such a thing, and if they haven&#8217;t, they probably will in the future. We all have skeletons in our closets, and most of us keep them there but politicians do not have that luxury as most others do. Are we to place blame on every little thing that someone else said as to what they must believe? He rejected his comments, he left the church, he basically disowned his preacher &#8212; what more does the guy need to do? For you, and those like you, seems like a lot.</p>
<p>&#8220;This specific article is to be absolutely clear, not designed to be an attack on Mr. Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is exactly what it is. You&#8217;ve stated elsewhere that you dislike McCain as much as you dislike Obama &#8212; when are we going to see your articles against McCain? I assume never.</p>
<p>You say that Obama is getting a free pass, please explain how? Most of the news I read, or watch on TV it&#8217;s about what Obama did here, or said here, or yadda yadda yadda, yet when McCain makes gaffes, or associates himself with others, I do notice that people seem to forgive him as soon as he makes them, even if he doesn&#8217;t recognize he did it (and denies it) or notices, and doesn&#8217;t care. McCain actually makes more gaffes, more flip-flops than Obama does yet you&#8217;re saying Obama is getting the free-pass? Yet the only people that call McCain on his is the &#8220;liberal media&#8221; and when they do it, it&#8217;s discarded by those not &#8220;liberal&#8221; as being nothing but attacks, and rhetoric. The Reverend Wright thing when on for weeks (perhaps longer than that), he didn&#8217;t get a free pass over it, he denounced, rejected etc., and still that doesn&#8217;t seem to be enough for some people. Even his recent comments on what some (some being the Republicans, and the McCain campaign) are considering him using the &#8220;race card&#8221;, I&#8217;ve heard it on the news for the past couple of days &#8212; or is that also Obama getting a &#8220;free pass&#8221;? I think you&#8217;re seeing things that aren&#8217;t there.</p>
<p>There are things that I don&#8217;t like about Obama but day after day there are more things I dislike about McCain (and his campaign) then Obama, and my vote is still for Obama.</p>
<p>-Nam</p>
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		<title>Comment on Personal Responsibility is Paramount Especially in the Political Realm by formerfundy</title>
		<link>http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/2008/07/15/personal-responsibility-is-paramount-especially-in-the-political-realm/#comment-2424</link>
		<dc:creator>formerfundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, There is no denying that McCain is being given free passes in this area
as well. I tried to make it clear that this article could have been written
about any other politician, which would include McCain.

Just to be totally clear, I think the way the media treats ALL politicians to
be out of line with the way that the politicians should be treated.

And sorry for the long delay in response. Somehow my computer was not showning
comments, or I as the operater was simply not seeing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, There is no denying that McCain is being given free passes in this area<br />
as well. I tried to make it clear that this article could have been written<br />
about any other politician, which would include McCain.</p>
<p>Just to be totally clear, I think the way the media treats ALL politicians to<br />
be out of line with the way that the politicians should be treated.</p>
<p>And sorry for the long delay in response. Somehow my computer was not showning<br />
comments, or I as the operater was simply not seeing them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thank God Obama Worships the &#8220;Right&#8221; God by ricky</title>
		<link>http://www.stateofprotest.com/blog/2008/07/04/thank-god-obama-worships-the-right-god/#comment-2382</link>
		<dc:creator>ricky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can Obamma do?

His dad was Muslim and he is legitamately NOT one.

If he were a Muslim, this would not be needed by alot of american voters are kind of stupid.

The Christian right has been very persistant in their campaign against him based on these lies and thus he has no choice but the address them in some manor. It lose/lose which is the intent of the attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can Obamma do?</p>
<p>His dad was Muslim and he is legitamately NOT one.</p>
<p>If he were a Muslim, this would not be needed by alot of american voters are kind of stupid.</p>
<p>The Christian right has been very persistant in their campaign against him based on these lies and thus he has no choice but the address them in some manor. It lose/lose which is the intent of the attacks.</p>
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